London Underground Expects To Run These Lines During Tube Strike

coventgardenclosed_030214Transport for London has announced the services it will try and run during this week’s 48 hour strike.

The RMT and TSSA have called strikes in response to the loss of 950 jobs stemming from London Underground’s plans to close all tube station ticket offices. This week’s strike is scheduled to start at 9.30pm on Tuesday; services won’t be back to normal until Friday morning.

On Wednesday and Thursday, this is what LU thinks it can run between 7am and 11pm each day. There will be Travel Ambassadors at stations helping with alternative routes; going from previous experience we can only advise that even though some services will run, they’ll be massively busy so if you can make other arrangements, do. We’ll keep you updated if there are any significant changes to these plans during the strike.

Update 11 February: the list below has been updated for the strike 11-13 February.

Bakerloo

Trains will run between Queen’s Park and Elephant Castle every six minutes but will not call at: Edgware Road, Embankment, Kilburn Park, Lambeth North, Maida Vale, Piccadilly Circus or Regent’s Park.

Central

Trains will run only between Epping and Leytonstone every 10 minutes and West Ruislip and White City every 10-15 minutes. No central London service.

Circle

Basically no service, so use District, Hammersmith & City and Metropolitan line trains instead.

District

Trains will run between Upminster and Wimbledon every six minutes and Ealing Broadway and High Street Kensington every 10 minutes but will not call at: Aldgate East, Blackfriars, Fulham Broadway, Gloucester Road, Sloane Square, Stepney Green or Temple.

Hammersmith & City

Trains will run between between Hammersmith and Moorgate around every ten minutes but will not call at: Barbican or Great Portland Street.

Jubilee

Trains will run between Stanmore and Finchley Road and between Waterloo and Stratford every five minutes but will not call at: Bermondsey, Canada Water and Southwark. Extremely limited zone 1 service.

Metropolitan

Trains will run between Harrow-on-the-Hill and Aldgate every ten minutes but will not call at: Barbican or Great Portland Street.

Northern

Trains will run to all destinations every five minutes via Bank and Charing Cross but will not call at: Angel, Borough, Chalk Farm, Charing Cross, Clapham North, Clapham South, Embankment, Goodge Street, Leicester Square, Mornington Crescent, Oval, South Wimbledon, Tufnell Park and Warren Street.

Piccadilly

Trains will run between Acton Town and Heathrow Terminals 1,2,3 around every 20 minutes and between Arnos Grove and Cockfosters every 12 minutes but will not call at: Heathrow Terminal 4 and Southgate. No central London service.

Victoria

Trains will run between Seven Sisters and Victoria every five minutes but will not call at: Pimlico, Vauxhall or Warren Street.

Waterloo & City

No service.

The DLR and Overground will run as normal and extra buses are being put on major routes. But again, expect them to be busy.

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  • Bart

    Surely bringing grief to the daily commuters using the service and not involved in the decision itself is the best way to have them sympathize with the point you’re trying to make

    • vegansareattentionseekers

      Please suggest a better way.Trying to talk to TFL about it has produced nothing.

      • Stephan

        Leave the gates open and let people travel for free. But a day off is a much better option, isn’t it?

        • http://londonist.com/ Rachel Holdsworth

          You know what – they are actually doing that, but on different days. 9.30-11.30am and 6.30-8.30pm on 7th, 10th and 14th Feb the gates will be open (also no manned ticket sales will take place).

          • Will

            I would be very impressed to have this get some publicity rather than the strike.

          • Will

            Can this be explained/publicised more? I can’t find anything mentioning this online – but of course the tube strike itself is being carried…everywhere… I am sure people would be very, very interested in reading about a chance to have a free journey on the tube at the least.

          • londona729

            Hi Rachel,
            Can you update the articles about the tube closures to mention the true figures as TfL deliberately brandishes the 3% figure to serve their agenda.

            21% of LU tickets are purchased at the ticket office

            3% of journeys begin at a ticket office

            This is because most tickets sold are reusable- e.g travelcards.

            Also I’m pretty sure less than 3% of journeys begin with auto top-up but I reckon that it wouldn’t suit TfL’s agenda to release that figure!

        • tom

          Stephan i think that they lose a day of work ie they don’t get paid

  • Sam

    It’s annoying but I hope they win. If Boris gets away with his tube cuts the disruption will be much worse.

  • lizonomy

    I find it hard to sympathise – TfL staff are paid well and treated well, which is more than I get. There was no fanfare when I was made redundant three times over the past year, replaced with unpaid interns, or for the low paid job I’ve had to take that barely covers my living and travel costs. The times are tough, it sucks, but it’s tough for lots of people. It’s not fair to disrupt everyone’s day, especially those whose hourly rate is lower than their travel costs, just because they can.

    • Chris Rogers

      Actually, I find it disgraceful that you were replaced by unpaid interns. That’s exactly how this government is getting its unemployment figures. I wish someone would have fought for/with you. I’ve never been a fan of the strikes for salary but these people are fighting for their jobs and good on them.

      • Jake Krige

        Applauding the RMT for screwing Joe Public while Crow sucks millions in union dues out of thousands of zombie jobs, that you’re subsidising?

        • Chris Rogers

          Actually, I don’t agree that customer service jobs are “Zombie jobs”. In fact most of those salaries don’t even come to much considering the profits the tube is making. Of course we could replace people with machines in a huge number of jobs. I’d rather employ these people than sending them to the dole to have a few more quid below the bottom line going to the fat cats. And you know what? Joe Public wouldn’t give a damn if it didn’t affected them, I’m happy for Joe Public to take note.

          • Jake Krige

            I’d rather employ highly skilled people to design, manufacture, programme, install, maintain, and service machines.

          • Chris Rogers

            Which they do once and you still have a bunch of people out of work. And when the next 7/7 happens I suppose you’re helped by the one guy at the station who fixes the oyster readers? Or perhaps the ticket machine?

          • londona729

            The tube doesn’t make profits lol! (at least when you factor in maintenance and investment!)

      • lizonomy

        Thank you! It’s funny, it happens so often now that sometimes I feel that perhaps I’m quite, quite mad in thinking people should be paid to work.

        I see your point, but there are too many tube strikes. I actually think the plans to remove staff from ticket offices and stations are appalling, but lots of people are struggling to make ends meet – working several jobs or long hours – and strikes (exhausting travel times, earnings lost due to lateness) put extra strain on the wrong people. It’s just not fair, especially when so much of the rest of don’t even have the support of a union to fight our cause.

        • Chris Rogers

          I actually agree with most of this. Like I said before I wasn’t a great fan of Crowe holding the city for ransom when they were already well paid. This is different, they are fighting for their jobs. And you see, I think this is exactly the problem. The Tories announce how many new jobs they created… well I’m working three of them to make ends meet. That’s not effective government for one of the richest countries in the world. I’m dreading my tube journey to work the next few days, but I’m gonna grin and bear it for the sake of the people not ending on the dole.

          • Jon Millwood

            Except they are not fighting for their jobs, there will be no compulsory redundancies.

          • Anda Todoran

            Exactly, no redundancies. They will be asked to work from next year during weekend nights when they’re planning to keep the tube running for 24h and they will be on the platform or around the ticket machines to help people around.

          • Jon Millwood

            Yep, I would sympathise with them if they were striking because they didn’t want shifts changed and more night working. But as all Bob Crow has said is they don’t want less staff and they don’t want ticket offices to close I don’t agree with the current strike.

            Change is inevitable and some changes such as moving ticket office staff out to the ticket hall seems sensible. But in 2015 when night tube starts I expect more strikes due to changes in shift patterns and I think that if staff have to work more night shifts then they are entitiled to a change in wages for that.

          • Chris Rogers

            Oh dear God, do you honestly believe they are gonna automate the system and then keep the same manpower? That is worse than naive. The extended hours are a whitewash of the fact that you’ll have less diverse skilled people and in the long run surely redundancies. And what happens in the event of an extraordinary circumstance? When someone falls onto the tracks or God forbid another 7/7 happens? I doubt the ticket machine will help you and I’d rather have a skilled person that someone who is there to fix broken Oyster readers.

          • Jon Millwood

            They aren’t keeping the same manpower, TfL has announced there will be 750 fewer jobs, but this is done through natural retirement, leavers and some voluntary redundancies.

            Also most of the stations getting fewer staff will be the above ground stations at the ends of the lines (metro stations on https://fitforthefuture.tfl.gov.uk/future-stations/). What happens if someone falls on the tracks on the DLR? This is a similar situation to those above ground tube stations and the tube stations will still have gateline staff which the DLR doesn’t.

            I’m hoping for skilled staff with excellent customer service skills to assist me when I need help with my Oyster or when someone unfamiliar with a ticket machine needs a ticket. I don’t think there are that many staff skilled in customer service on the Underground currently, most look like they don’t want to help.

          • Chris Rogers

            Fair enough Jon but here is where you and I must simply agree to disagree. I prefer human beings being the spear-front of customer service rather than machines. You will not achieve “skilled staff with excellent customer service skills” by reducing their numbers. What you will end up with is less staff who are overworked and even less inclined to help you.

    • Will

      I did not speak up when they took your job, because I did not work there…

      It’s fair to disrupt everyone’s day if you are going to lose your job. The pity is that everyone can’t look past their own self interest to see how their lot might be better if other workers showed the same backbone. You might still have your job.

      • lizonomy

        Will… what? You didn’t speak up for me because you didn’t work there, but I should speak up for you because otherwise I only care about my own interests and have no backbone – I’m confused. That sounds like double standards to me.

        Disrupting thousands, millions, of people for your cause is the epitome of self interest – I’ve never seen tube workers striking against unbelievably unfair price hikes for customers (as I mentioned, travel is far more than an hour’s wages for many people) or the terrible overcrowding. Have you asked your customers if they would mind supporting action? No, it’s just going ahead anyway. I don’t mind supporting people against job loses, I do mind having to f**k about in the cold for hours trying to get home after work where I then have to start the other job I do from home.

        @thomasogilvie:disqus definitely has the right idea.

        • X
        • Will

          No double standards. Just that if you gave a **** about other people’s jobs maybe people would give a **** about yours.

          But divide and rule works very nicely for the people who have an ever increasing wage at the cost of many, many other people being driven out of their life. Sorry to be so explicit but I’m amazed you could possibly miss the point.

          I don’t work for TFL at all and it’ll be a pain in the arse for me and mine too but frankly, if I was one of your customers and you’d gone on strike to save your job, you’d have my full support.

          It is not like the unions are ever met with a discussion. The heads of
          TFL and Boris refuse to even talk until their demands are met. Yet
          coverage of the issue is not even handed and asking “What could be done
          to avoid this”, it skews entirely towards the whitewashing of “But the
          tubes will finally be open for a decent amount of time on the weekend
          and these trotskyists can’t take it!”

          • Will

            Oh and I agree Thomas’s idea is much better! Sadly employment law covers striking. It doesn’t cover doing your job but not doing the bits that interact with the customer.

          • lizonomy

            Will, I’m not sure how you came to the conclusion that I don’t care about anyone’s job, but it seems as though you come from the pompous shouty school of debate and it’s likely I’ll regret it if I reply to your comments – I’m going to sneak out of the toilet window instead.

          • londona729

            It does- ‘partial performance’ for those who take action short of striking

    • Realist

      Sob story

  • Thomas Ogilvie

    Wouldn’t a better strategy be for the ‘strikers’ to open all the Tube gates and let commuters travel free for a day? Hurts the TfL in the same way, raises awareness for their cause, and doesn’t alienate London.

    • lizonomy

      Wowsers. I’m in.

      • Chris Rogers

        I love that idea. Hit them in the wallet where it hurts.

    • Amou

      Except that London Underground could legitimately refuse to pay them, as they are not undertaking their contractual duties. In any case, there is a planned ‘revenue’ action short of a strike; however I expect that this won’t take off

      • londona729

        Actually TfL would have to pay them if they allowed the staff to work (even if they only carried out part of their duties)

  • Dave

    Wonder If I could strike? Oh… no… I would lose my job!!!

    • Will

      Do you have a union? If you did, you would not.

      • Sapporo

        Yes, because the private company that they worked for would have gone bust, just like so many did in the 60s and 70s. Unions did a good job in the early part of the 20thC, but now they are simply a vehicle for the dinosaur communists.

      • Dave

        Thats ridiculous have you ever worked for a private company? Be a good idea if they considered the people that use them and paid their wages.

        • Will

          Yep. I am unionised at my private company. If there is a strike, they can’t fire me for taking part.

          Be a good idea if employers thought about the people they use and rely on their wages. But lets all sit on our island of selfishness and bring everyone down to the same ****y level of helpless misery we live in.

  • Steve

    I no longer live in London but when I come to London I bring my Oyster card, if you have an Oyster card you can top it up at a News Vendor in most high streets so do you really need ticket offices? Just get an Oyster Card! the only effect is on tourists and we don’t have that many tourists in February do we?

  • Ralph

    No-one likes change but its a fact there is now n such thing as ‘a job for life’ we all will be flexible enough to work in many different ways throughout our working life; that’s progress! Unfortunately the unions rely on their members for their income less members less income. Poor Mr Crow. I was brought up in a mining community, the changes there resulted in longer lives, healthier people, better living conditions and more importantly an open mind to alternative work and careers.

  • Jo

    The more strikes there are, the more I support driverless trains. I fully support the right of tube workers to fight for their jobs, but I don’t think strikes are the right way to go about it – it doesn’t hurt LU because I’ve already bought my travel card, but it does alienate the public, who would have been most likely to support keeping drivers in trains and ticket offices open.

  • Labourvoter

    Why do these people think they hold any value when they can be easily replaced by robots? Instead of striking they should be trying to negotiate a heavy pay cut to save their job. Reminds me of the fast food cashiers striking in the USA for higher wages then finding out the next day they’ve been fired and replaced by self service machines.

  • Kay

    Situation is not ideal for anyone.

    For TfL workers – job losses, cuts, replaced by machines, sucks.
    For Londoners – getting to their jobs, going about their daily lives is going to be a nightmare.

    For George Osborne or Boris – It’s another normal day doing PR stunts and TV interviews, they don’t take the tube, they don’t care.

    The point of strikes is to gather momentum and public sympathy so they can become a pressure tool in negotiations. They work when the public is in on it, the problem is we’ve all been fine tuned to only think about ourselves, and worse, most of us just don’t quite get economics. Because what affects the regular TfL employee will in some form affect the entire city – it’s a vicious circle of layoffs, lowering purchasing power, unemployment, economy at large suffering.

    TfL has a HUGE reserve of cash that they keep hanging around for their future projects. They could in theory work out a handsome agreement that makes everyone happy, there aren’t many things in this world that money won’t solve. But they won’t and Bob Crow is in to make a name for himself as much as any other politician – it’s a power game and he’s in it to win it.

    If the economy wasn’t slowly recovering and we were in worse times I’d say you would have gotten more public sympathy with this. In fact they might have gained momentum and got support from other unions. This is highly unlikely now. For most of us its just another day, if we can’t make it to the office we will work from home.

    I personally feel for the employees losing their jobs just like I feel for the Royal Mail employees and for all victims of the Tories’ savage attacks. But its not like on the other isle you have Karl Marx waving his magic wand – Labour’s economic policies are just as bad and blurred. At least Tories have numbers to back up their policies, Labour don’t have much….

    • Chewie84

      “The point of strikes is to gather momentum and public sympathy so they can become a pressure tool in negotiations. They work when the public is in on it, the problem is we’ve all been fine tuned to only think about ourselves,”

      these strikes will not get public sympathy, not ever as it’s screwing over the one innocent party in this, the passengers/the public,

      It’s like RMT and TSSA are the father and LU/Boris are the mother and we in the middle are the kids and ‘Dad’ has just said because he doesn’t get on with ‘Mum’ he’s cancelling our weekend plans on Friday – just like that scenario we ‘the kids’ are the ones who suffer

      If the reliability of the services turns out to not be much worse than normal service (people already reporting big delays this morning) this could massively backfire and irreparably swing support away from the unions cause.

    • londona729

      TfL have gone to the dogs in my book!

      I’d vote Tory over Labour any day mind you!

  • Dave

    replace them with machines, save us all money

  • Rea

    As someone who works for London Underground on the gateline in a busy central London station I get the sense from regular commuters underestimate the importance of ticket offices.

    My job is busy dealing with customers asking for directions (outside and on the tube), ticketing queries, ticket machine problems, customers having problems with the gates, fare evaders, keeping an eye out the escalators, security checks and any suspicious activity.

    With the number of customers asking ticketing questions it is really helpful when the ticket office is open and my collegaues there can deal with the all the ques of people efficiently while I carry out the rest of my duties.

    The number one thing from customers tends to be either buying several oyster cards (which takes forever on a machine, and impossible for tourists with a foreign credit debit card) and those trying to get back the deposit and balance for their card (only possible from a ticket office). Ever since London Underground management have decided to erode the opening times of the ticket offices alot of tourists leave London losing the oyster card deposit money (the same money we said they could get back if they can find an open ticket office before they leave).

    Ticket offices are very important for making refunds and adjustments made to incorrect pay as you go oyster charges. Now when the office is closed we on the gates are left with the short end of the stick with customers having a go at us or leaving with poor service and the best thing we can do is offer an apology and an 0845 number to contact. Now with all but 6 ticket offices closing what kind of CUSTOMER service will be offered to all these customers with issues? What will a person on the gateline with an iPad (new LU proposals) be able to do to solve these customer transaction issues? From previous experience I’ve seen this has can occasionally lead to confrontation and assaults against staff

    Ticket office staff are also responsible for filling the machines with change and doing the banking records.

    When the ticket office is closed it makes my job alot more challenging.

    Just a glimpse into the importance of the ticket office. Now this coupled with all the cuts proposed on the station side of LU, stations sharing supervisors (imagine emergency situations without the supervisor to implement the correct protocol) and other cuts going on with train depot staff (train maintainers etc) it is very worrying as an employee.

    I’ve never been one to cry wolf but I see one!

    • Jon Millwood

      Other articles have stated that ticket machines will be upgraded by end of 2014 and should be possible to get refunds without a ticket office.
      I appreciate there are some hard working staff but every time I have had to use a ticket window the member of staff seemed less than happy to help, I try to use the website as much as possible for my oyster issues

  • Chewie84

    all i can see from this is the workers saying

    ‘Look how important we are, people need to ask us things so we’ll not be there for 2 days and cause the people who have done NOTHING to us great stress and inconvenience so they can see how much they need us’

    tbh this to me is buying your own rope as you’re giving an excuse to find a better alternative to the 950 people which can’t strike

  • leslie

    les knibbs
    because of strike it should n whyot cost more mony to get to work but it does why

    • londona729

      Please say that again more eloquently!